Tuesday, February 15, 2011

"Only The Apostles" - 8 More Reasons

Reason #12:  Ephesians 4, 5, 6 describe thoroughly the Walk and Service of a Spirit-filled believer.
Nowhere in this key passage is speaking in tongues mentioned. 

Conclusion:  "Walking worthy" does not include tongues.

Reason #13 - Phonetics Test Every language must have hundreds of different syllables to express the wide range of ideas in a society.  Charismatic tongues only have less than 12 syllables repeated, constantly.  This is typical of gibberish that comes from a mind that is not expressing thoughts, but from a tongue out of control from the mind.

Note.  4 syllables are, for example, seen in "Cha/ris/ma/tic".  This shows that tongues are not real languages, but are just sounds made up on the spot at random. 

Reason #14 - Order of importance is reversed.  Majoring on tongues REVERSES the order of importance of spiritual gifts.  In 1 Corinthians 12:28, God lists tongues as the least important of eight gifts.

In 1 Corinthians 12:31, God tells the church to seek the "best" gifts.
God gives gifts to believers "as HE will" (12:11), not as we insist.
Charismatics tell people to pray long and hard for the gift of tongues.

We are not to deliberately choose and insist on having the least gift and exalt it above the others.  Why not place greater emphasis on the gifts of pastor-teacher, evangelists, helps, government, giving, etc.?  It is because these gifts involve hard work, but tongues is easy.

Reason #15 - Rebuking Errors - The context of 1 Corinthians is rebuking 13 errors, such as tongues, and it is not recommending tongues.  The Corinthian church was filled with problems that Paul corrects in this book, such as: 
  1. They were following their favourite human leaders causing divisions. 1:11-14
  2. " " favouring human wisdom. 1:18-2:13
  3. " " carnal, living for self, not controlled by the Spirit. 2:14-3:7
  4. " " forgetting the future Judgment Seat of Christ. 3:8-23
  5. " " proud, thinking of themselves more highly than they ought. 4:1-21
  6. " " failing to discipline, by tolerating a fornicator. 5:1-13
  7. " " taking fellow believers to court. 6:1-20
  8. " " confused about marriage. 7:1-40
  9. " " confused about liberty thinking it meant license to do as they please, even stumbling others. 8,9.10
  10. " " confused about clothing, long hair on men and Lord's Supper. 11
  11. " " confused about spiritual gifts, especially tongues. 12-14
  12. " " confused about the resurrection. 15
  13. " " confused about the collection. 16
 As we can see the Corinthian church was deep in error and false doctrine.  It was the only church that emphasized tongues as today's Charismatics do.  Charismatics therefore place themselves in very bad company.  Charismatics fail to understand that Paul is not endorsing tongues, but is rebuking the wrong use of tongues and is strongly regulating tongues contrary to today's Charismatics.

Reason #16 - They fail the "Easy to be entreated" test.
It is amazing how tongue-speakers often become very angry, intolerant, irritable, impatient, nervous, very dogmatic, and extremely touchy when anything is said which disapproves of or corrects their idea of speaking in tongues.

"The wisdom that is from above is first pure, then peaceable, easy to be entreated"...James 3:17
"The works of the flesh...are wrath, strife..." Galations 5:19, 20.
"Looking diligently lest any man fail of the grace of God."  Hebrews 12:15.

Reason #17 - The First Mentioned Principle of Tongues is in the Context of Judgment.
This is a well-established principle for correctly interpreting Scripture.

It states that:

When any subject, word, expression or idea is first mentioned in the Bible, this shows how God thinks on that subject, and is a guide to how we should understand this subject in the rest of the Bible.  For example:
  • The first mention of Babylon, Babel, and languages is in Genesis 11:1-9 where God confused man's languages so that they did not understand one another's speech.  "The Lord scattered mankind abroad upon the face of all the earth."  Man has remained divided by different languages ever since.  Hence tongues are associated with division and confusion (the meaning of Babel), ever since the Tower of Babel; not with the blessing of God, but with the judgment of God.
"Thou shalt keep them secretly in a pavilion from the strife of tongues"  Psalm 31:20

Reason #18 - PRAYING IN TONGUES is WRONG because UNDERSTANDING is ABSENT.

"For if I pray in an unknown tongue, my spirit prayeth but my understanding is unfruitful.  What is it then?  I will pray with the spirit and I will pray with the UNDERSTANDING ALSO"  1 Corinthians 14:14,15.

Paul is saying here that if you pray in tongues, your spirit might be trying to express something, but your MIND (or understanding) has no idea what is being said.  This is wrong, Paul says.  For prayer to be genuine, we must pray with our spirit and with our understanding.

Praying in tongues fails the test of understanding.  The mind and voice are disconnected.  Many Charismatics will try to justify praying in tongues by quoting Romans 8:26.

"...the Spirit itself maketh intercession for us with groanings which CANNOT BE UTTERED".

This verse is not talking about praying in tongues because tongues are uttered vocal sounds.  The Holy Spirit speaks our thoughts to the Father with groanings which cannot be uttered by us, yet prayer tongues are uttered by people.

Reason #19 - The Process of Elimination shows tongues to be not for believers of today.

Tongues primary purpose was to warn unbelieving Jews to repent, or God would judge them.
They refused to repent, so God judged them in 70 AD, thus making tongues as a warning to the Jews no longer necessary.

"Tongues are a sign, NOT TO THEM THAT BELIEVE, but to them that BELIEVE NOT..." 1 Corinthans 14:22.

Tongues are a sign for one of three types of people.  Which one?

a) NOT FOR BELIEVERS. 14:22.  This means that tongues have no purpose for believers.  For Christians to speak in tongues is not valid.

b) NOT FOR GENTILE UNBELIEVERS. 14:23.  Those unlearned to the Old Testament meaning of tongues, or unbelievers, "will they not say that ye are mad?"  This describes unsaved Gentiles.
Tongues are not for this group because the history of Assyrian and Babylonian tongues as a warning of a judgment to Israel meant nothing to them.

c) JEWISH UNBELIEVERS, 14:21.  "In the law (Isaiah 28:11, Jeremiah 5:15 and Deuteronomy 28:49) it is written, with men of other tongues (Assyrian, Babylonian, Roman) and other lips will I speak unto this people (Jews); and yet for all that will they not hear me, saith the Lord".

17 comments:

Bradley Cunningham said...

Once again, you have hit the nail on the head about tongues-speakers! This is clearly not for today and I am pleased that you had the courage to publish this. I lost my family many years ago to one of these churches but I have never given up hope that they will see the error of their ways.

Mona Reis said...

Clarity is something that these people who speak in tongues really need to understand. That means if they read the Scriptures, they should know that they are not following God's direction for gifts. Anyone praying for this is obviously praying for the Devil to come in and take over their lives as happened to my brother and his family during their foray into a Victory church. Thank goodness their eyes were opened before they lost everything.

Marian Hall said...

What an awesome set of articles about tongues. This leaves absolutely no doubt that this is not a gift for today.

Rhonda Rowe said...

I hope that all of the Pentecostals who believe in this garbage find your blog! They need to have their eyes opened. It's about time that someone spoke out against these "gifts" that are nothing but Satan's deceptions.

Nina Timmons said...

This is just too much! The Charismatics need to stop using this bogus gift and get their heads and hearts right with the Lord. I hope that this blog becomes a full discussion point with all of the families who have relatives involved in any of these churches. For some reason, when I was involved with a Word of Faith church, the Lord opened my eyes and I was able to get out safely.

Lorne Elliott said...

It's about time that this became "common" knowledge instead of "hidden" knowledge in the Pentecostal churches across the world today. This "feel-good" gift is a farce. I have been trying to emphasize this to my adult children for years but they think I don't have a clue about how God works. They need this spiritual high every week (and more than once a week) because if they miss church, they are miserable and then someone from their congregation calls them about their missed tithe. They even come to the house to pick it up -- what is wrong with this picture? Everyone should be aware and beware of this practice!

William E. Reed said...

I have been following your blog for some time, thinking that you were really out to lunch; however, we had an incident a week ago at our church that has totally made me rethink why I am attending a church that is so mean and non-biblically based. I won't relay the incident because it was horrible to watch; but it made me go back, re-read some of your blog and realize that I am part of the problem by continuing to support a church that follows the speaking in tongues! I now have to try to convince my wife and children that we need to get out and get out now. I hope that others will read your blog and see the light.

Edmund O'Leary said...

This is completely nuts! We are absolutely amazed at how easily our family was misled into falling for this junk and becoming totally emmersed in this fake-style church. We have been trying to get them to seriously look at what their pastor is teaching them that is doctrinally wrong and here is your blog which lays everything out in good chronological and biblically-based order. We will try again to get through to them.

Iris Schoffield said...

We have family involved in these churches and truly are thankful that you are taking the time to publish this truth. We are praying that somehow they will be pulled out before it is too late. Speaking in tongues is a deceptive lie that sucks them into more and more evil.

G. D. Holmes said...

Speaking in tongues will eventually not be enough. Then there will be exorcisms to get rid of the evil that keeps people from getting the "gift". Then there will be "paying more" to get the "gift". And then before you know it, you have lost everything and are back living with your parents because you have had to declare bankruptcy. How I wish that I had listened to the voices of reason before this happened.

Ira & Doris Sherman said...

We are happy to have found your blog. We have been trying to inform our family for years that this is not biblically correct. We are sending the link to all of them.

Stanley Whyte said...

This series needs to be sent to all of the head offices of any charismatic church. They are all going to have a lot to answer for in the judgment. They have led so many astray and the ones that have passed on already cannot be rescued like my sister and her family after they lost everything to one of these churches.

Ford Bryson said...

TRUE! TRUE! TRUE! It's about time that someone had the guts to proclaim the WRONGNESS of speaking in tongues. It is deceptive, non-scriptural and it is beyond belief about how many people fall into this trap. It may make you feel good for a short time but soon once or twice a week won't be enough. Thank you for taking the time to find all of these authors who declare that this is WRONG!

Anonymous said...

We too have children involved at the Barry Victory Centre and are frightened beyond belief that we cannot get through to them. The speaking in tongues, constantly spending all of their free time at the church, giving more than half of their income to that charlatan pastor so he can live in a BIG house in an expensive neighbourhood is beyond our comprehension. We cannot talk to them and every time we try to bring it up, they threaten us with taking away our visits with our grandchildren. We will continue to pray for your children as well as ours that their eyes may be opened. We cannot publish our names due to repercussions to our family.

Arthur Wilkinson said...

This is such a truth! Why can't our family see that they are involved in something demonic. It's hard to stand by and do nothing but we simply have no way to reach them. They tune us out. We are sending your blog link along to them in the hopes that something will make sense to them.

Lindsey Carrington said...

If I had only known this before I lost everything. I was raised Pentecostal but got involved in a Victory church later in life. The slippery road has left me emotionally wrung-out, mentally exhausted and financially broken. I cannot even explain how I ended up in this mess. My only plea is if anyone is involved in a speaking in tongues cult, run as fast as you can as far as you can away from these people before it is too late.

Laura Stinson said...

It must be difficult to watch your children making such a life-changing mistake. We lost our kids altogether when we tried to make them see reason. Tongues was just the beginning. It's now been over ten years since we've had any contact with them. But God can do anything and we are praying that somehow, they will see that they need to get out.