Do You Hear What I Hear?

Posted on - Faith Teachers Confess - Their Faith Teachings Don't Work
"I like your post. I went to a Bible study and the lady who lead it said by going to see Oral Roberts she was healed of a burning problem all over her body. She also did teaching from a man named Andrew Wommack, Kenneth Copeland and others u have named. As I went I new something wasnt right. When I questioned the teaching she wouldnt talk to me. I believed the Lord was telling me to stay away from her and the others falling into these lies. It is a False teaching.The Bible warns of false Jesus. They makeup another Jesus not the Bible Jesus. I would get a bad feeling every time I went. Satan Knows when we desire closeness to God and if not careful will lead us to a trap. Hes the father of lies and knows God's word and will work through these false teachers to make God's word sound the way he wants."

-  By Anonymous

Posted on - Biblical Theology
I really wish that some of these nutbar preachers of the Faith Movement would go to Bible College before they open their mouths. Now Barrie Victory Centre is going to have a Bible College in their new building..probably taught by uneducated and ineffective people from the Victory Churches International. Already they are trying to get my high school aged children to commit to attending college with them instead of going to Ryerson. These people should be run out of town on a rail before they destroy even more lives than they have already.

- By Anonymous

Posted on - The Faith Movement Televangelist and the Word of God
It's about time that someone took on these televangelists and Word of Faith preachers. Most of them don't have a clue about what God's Word says. I have been researching a lot of your books and find the work that you have undertaken to expose these frauds inspiring. Keep up the good work.

- By J. Dickens

Posted on - A Preliminary Assessment of Word/Faith Televangelism
Televangelism is one of the biggest ways for the spread of distorted biblical information. These T.V. preachers who think that you can speak it to get it or name it to claim it are so horribly wrong. They are leading everyone who listens to them right down the road to eternal damnation. Keep on writing, Sir! Maybe someday, all of these kooks will get kicked off television.

- By R. Browning

Posted on - Scripture Twisting
What a true statement! Word of Faith "preachers" are always twisting the scriptures to suit their own agendas, especially when it comes to getting their poor deceived attendees to give more and more money! They are so deceived that they don't realize what is happening until they are broke and discouraged. God never said that we would be wealthy! He said He would provide for our needs if we trust and obey Him. That doesn't mean paid for houses and big cars! We found this out way too late.

- By Name Withheld Because of Embarrassment

Posted on - A Preliminary Assessment of Word/Faith Televangelism
So delighted to read your latest series! You give hope to those who have family members caught up in these cultic Victory Churches. We were able to get our children to see reason after we sent them to this clearly researched blog. Of course, their "pastor" tried to say that you were a "nut" but with the list of books that you have read and provided information to us, our kids finally saw the light. They are back in our Baptist church and we are very grateful to you. Keep it up -- maybe your boys will eventually see the light.

- By Lorena Goldsmith

Posted on - Assessment of Positive Confessionism
This is a very interesting concept. I am sure that many people don't understand it and get sidetracked by these misinformed preachers. I hope that a lot of people find the truth through your blog.

- By Anonymous

Posted on - Assessment of Positive Confessionism
I just want to encourage you to keep writing. My wife and I have found your blog to be one of the most helpful ones when dealing with the Faith Movement and Victory Churches International. This plague of heretical teachings is spreading across the world like wildfire and so many people who think they are saved are actually worshipping a god that is not in the Bible nor the Saviour of our world. We continue to pray that more people will find your blog and that God will open their eyes to the truth.

- By B. McTavish

Posted on - Scripture Twisting

I have been following your blog with some interest for the couple of years or so. I've never been one to comment because I've found everything to be well-researched and presented. The library list has allowed me to purchase some of the books and review them in conjunction with looking up the Scriptures that are referred to and I must say that there is no doubt that these Bible scholars know what they are talking about. It is clear that they know their Bible inside and out -- I hope that you continue writing so that all of the deceived people in these cultic churches will have their eyes opened.

- By W. Fitzsimons

Posted on - Assessment of Positive Confessionism
I find this blog to be an eye-opening experience into the problems with the Victory Churches and in particular, with Barrie Victory Centre. I find it completely unbelievable that so many people can be duped by the biblically uneducated people who are running all the programs especially the youth leaders who have had no biblical training whatsoever.

- By Anonymous

Posted on - Scripture Twisting - Conclusion
Once again, Mr. Poo-Bah, you have hit the nail right on the head. These Faith Movement people are so deceived by their leaders (I refuse to call them pastors or ministers--they can stick anybody at the front to rant and rave at them--and that's preaching????) It really saddens me that these uneducated followers of the Faith Movement are going to hell because they are being led down the garden path by charlatans and false teachers just like the Bible says will happen in the end times. Keep the faith, Brother. God will pass His final judgment on all of these when it is in His time.

- By Edward C. Tomson

Posted on - Ye Shall Be As Gods

I have been reading your last few posts with great interest. This last one about the little gods syndrome is so typical of what is being taught at the Barrie Victory Centre (in fact, all Victory Churches).. and if you don't adhere to their teachings -- watch out. I hope that you are aware of how far these BVC nuts are ready to go to keep their adherents toeing the line and believing all the drivel that that nutbar in charge along with the youth leaders are teaching. I have stopped attending and now my family is being harrassed because I used to contribute a lot of time and money to this Devil-lead group. Do be careful as they will stop at nothing to keep their attendees under their thumbs.

- By Name Withheld Out Of Fear

Posted on - Ye Shall Be As Gods
You are so right on with this interpretation of how the Victory Churches think. Kenneth Copeland and his wife are the worst of the worst in teaching this to the millions of deceived people who watch their TV programs and read their puff-books. And they get filthy rich off the hard earned dollars of their followers. We were sent a link to your blog and after reading it all -- our eyes were opened. We no longer have any dealings with the Copeland organization and are actively trying to show our family and friends the error of their ways. Thank you for taking a firm stand -- we believe that God led us to you.

- By V. Totten

Posted on - Scripture Twisting - Conclusion
The twisting of Scriptures is something that the Faith Movement does well. They take a piece of God's Word and manipulate it to suit their purposes. Nowhere in the Word are Christians guaranteed health, wealth or freedom from trials by having enough faith. In fact, the Bible says that Christians will face many trials to bring us closer to God. A "feel good" church is a "bad" church. For example, true churches teach everything based on Scripture while "feel good" places (like Joel Osteen's) are full of deceived people. I enjoy reading your blog. 

- By Constance H; Wyatt

Posted on - Misapplied Texts and Terms
I wish these "little gods" preachers would stop incorrectly quoting Scripture. You can sure tell when you sit in their services that they don't have a clue about real teaching based on the truth of the Scripture. And forget asking them about it -- they swear that you are a "Devil's Spawn" and tell you not to come back to their "church." Blahhhh! Somebody ought to run these charlatans out of town on a rail! 

- By B. Corrigan

Posted on - Misapplied Texts and Terms
One of these days all these "little gods" people will be rotting in hell for deceiving Christians. On that note, Christians who follow these "little gods" preachers like Paul McCullough from Barrie Victory Centre cannot possibly be Christians. They go broke supporting this idiot who tells them that they need to give more and more money. Their youth leaders have no Bible training at all to teach correct Scripture to the children. This new church is costing every attendee a fortune in covenant spending. The school is a farce and none of the children who go there will be able to cope in the real world when they graduate. Thanks for letting me rant.. I am afraid to leave my name because of the repercussions that could happen.

- By Anonymous

Posted on - Scripture Twisting - Conclusion
If these so-called churches are twisting Scripture to suit their warped sense of worth to deceive their followers into giving them things that aren't scriptural - they should be closed. Most of these Faith Movement organizations are run by a tyrant who keeps everyone toeing the line. There is no accountability and that's why they get away with it. I wish that their followers would miraculously get their eyes and ears opened and run these charlatans out of town.

- By Anonymous

Posted on - False Teachings of Barrie Victory Center
I was looking up Barrie Victory Center and your blog came up right underneath their website. I'm so glad that I read your take on this church. We have attended there for a few weeks and just felt that something was "off" about the touchy-feely aspect of this group. The constant grab for money was also a bit much and the process is very sneaky. My wife thought that some of the teachings were a bit off the mark and after we read this posting on your blog, we know why. Thank you for putting the finger on what we felt was wrong. We'll be finding another church to attend.

- By C. McKenzie

Posted on - False Prophesies and a "Born-Again" Jesus
We are so glad that you are continuing to write about these "false Jesus" teachings. It breaks our hearts that we have children involved in a local faith movement group that distorts the true Scripture in order to create a pyramid scheme of pastors getting rich quick on the backs of their followers. We hope that your children will also see the light about what is really going on in their church.

- By D. Grienway

Posted on - False Teachings of the Barrie Victory Center
Boy, am I ever glad that I read this blog post about the Barrie Victory Centre. My teenage kids want to go to their youth group because they are friends with the Kenney kids... after reading this; there is NO WAY that I would let my children attend anything at that so-called church. How heartbreaking it must be for you to watch your children and grandchildren going down this path where they are so deceived by the leadership at this cult. Now that the church is in a huge building I can just guess how much cash this guy is taking out of the families' pockets who attend there. I will keep you and your family in prayer that somehow they will see the light and get out before it is too late. 

- By Can't Leave My Name

Posted on - "Health and Wealth" Teachers Claim Direct Counsel from God
What a load of hogwash! These people are so out to lunch and it is so unfortunate that they don't see what they are doing to their followers. I really wish that they would wise up before it is too late.

- By Anonymous

Posted on - What is the Health and Wealth Gospel?
This is so ridiculous. Nowhere in Scripture does God tell Christians that everyone is going to be rich and healthy. So many people get deceived with TV preachers like Joel Osteen and Joseph Prince. In fact, Scripture teaches that Christians will suffer more for their faith than worldly people. Thank you for continuing the fight for true Christianity.

- By A. Dysarairt

Posted on - Errors of Positive Confessionism and Consequences
Wow! I had no idea that all these people were teaching a false Scripture. I stumbled upon your blog when I was doing research for a paper on pentecostal teachings. What a wealth of information you have provided. Thanks to you and your certified reference materials, I have been able to rethink my position on pentecostalism and I am now looking for a true Bible believing and preaching church in my home town. We do have a couple of Victory churches in our area and they seem to be mesmerizing all of our kids in the neighbourhood with the crap that they are teaching. Good for you. 

- By Owen Blythe

Posted on - The Bible Shows Faith Teachers' Errors
All of these false teachers should really attend a good Bible-based seminary and learn what the Scripture really says about the verses that they all use out of context. Christians, for the most part, have more difficulties and issues because we are targets of the Devil who is constantly trying to get us to denounce God. I find your blog extremely informative and helpful in dealing with people who are involved in such scam churches as Barrie Victory Centre. It is unfortunate that most of the adherents to this scumbag pastor cannot see the forest for the trees and it will be too late when they finally realize that they have been scammed for all their money, time and whatever else those so-called better than everyone else pastors can get out of them. Keep up the good word! 

- By Gordon Thomas

Posted on - The Bible Shows Faith Teachers' Errors
I think that these "preachers" who lead their congregations astray with all the non-biblical garbage that you have indicated should be thrown out of their churches. It is unfortunate that so many people have their eyes and minds closed by Satan to only believe what the "pastor" is telling them instead of reading their Bibles for themselves. Your blog is an eye-opener to us as we were involved in a Victory church years ago. If only we had known that we were being led astray and into bankruptcy and emotional breakdown because we didn't give enough or believe enough. 

- By R. & B. Chattyn

Posted on - Does the Atonement of Christ Allow Us to Claim Physical Healing This is a very interesting article. God can choose to heal some people while He chooses not to heal others. Scripture doesn't say anything about us being able to CLAIM healing. It does allow us to pray for it but the healing is at God's discretion, not our demand to be healed. Where these people misinterpret the Scriptures to teach that Christians can claim healing is beyond me. I hope that some of these misguided people can find your blog and read what true Bible scholars are saying about these health and wealth teachings. 

- By O. Kennedy

Posted on - Errors of Positive Confession and Consequences There are so many things that are wrong with this positive confession theology, especially when you have to come up to the front of the church and confess everything that you've ever done before the congregation. I always thought that the only person you had to confess to was God but when we unwittingly got involved with one of these faith movement churches, we had no idea of what positive confession was. It turned out to be humiliating and we were told that in order to be accepted we had to sign a covenant with the church to ensure that we would not backslide into sin. Included in that covenant document was a list of MUST DOs and DON'Ts. We so wanted to be accepted that we went in blindly to this agreement to support the church and then in turn, they would support us. Well they did -- right into bankruptcy and by using emotional blackmail, caused my wife to attempt to take her own life. Fortunately we found a real saviour in our doctor who realized what we were involved with and he helped us disentangle ourselves from this abuse.  Make no mistake -- it is abuse -- of the worst kind.  These pastor-charlatans are nothing more than demons in disguise who eat up their followers and when there is nothing left of them, spit them out and move on to the next bunch of easily led people.

By M. Torey

Posted on - Does the Atonement of Christ Allow Us to Claim Physical Healing

I agree with O. Kennedy's comment about the physical healing. We were involved in BVC and had several health issues. We were told that if we had enough faith (1st thing) that God would have to bend to our will because we were on the same level as Jesus. What a crock of crap that was -- then the next line was that we weren't tithing enough to get God's attention for healing -- so we gave more money -- still ill. Then we had to sign up for a covenant relationship to help build the kingdom (guess what we were building -- yup -- that big new edifice that belongs to the pastor and his wife) and it's going to be paid for in a few short years thanks to all of us fools who were taken in. Still no health for either my wife or I. We have since left BVC and we are expecting to receive some sort of legal action because we are not paying our covenant bill (turns out -- it's a mortgage hidden in there -- and our lawyer says we probably don't have a leg to stand on to get out of paying unless we go bankrupt

- By Anonymous

Posted on - Does the Atonement of Christ Allow Us to Claim Physical Healing The ability for these fraudulent "pastors" to guess about what they don't know in the area of physical healing just makes me sick. God is in full control and decides for whatever reason He chooses to heal some people while others suffer. It doesn't matter whether you have enough faith or pay enough money. God decides, not man. Nobody can claim healing in the way that these faith people say they can. Somebody ought to send them out to see a real mission field where they cannot dupe people into giving them money to live high on the hog lives like Paul and Debby McCulloch on the backs and wallets of their followers. Your revelation of the false doctrines of these churches has been an eye-opener to us. Keep up the work and maybe your sons and their families will realize just how much they have been deceived. 

- By Grace Whyte

Posted on - Healing for Emotional Hurts

I am so disgusted with the youth leaders at Barrie Victory Centre. Every time you turn around, they want to take our kids on a "faith retreat" -- what this has turned out to be is them being taken to another Victory Church location where they become free labour to help build classrooms, benches, and other things. This is supposed to enrich their faith experience. I agree that kids need to have some experiences but every month for the last 6 months? Really? When we refused to let our kids go the last time, they were ridiculed because God's work should come before family. The youth leaders have since asked us "nicely" -- to stop bringing our kids to youth group. This group should be exposed for the charlatan church that it is!

- By Anonymous

Posted on - Errors of Positive Confession and Consequences I think my family is attending one of these "itching ear" churches based on this article. Everything that their leader says to them, they do. They have lost all common sense about life when it comes to this guy. He tells them that he needs a new car and the church comes up with enough money for a new Mercedes. In the meantime, their family car needs winter tires and they cannot afford to put them on. I am sending them the link to this article. Maybe it will make them see some sense since I can't.

- By Roger Tompkin

I Hope You Hear What I Hear!

For more information on Victory Churches and the Faith Movement, go to the Reference Library.  Click on any book title to get a brief overview of the book.  All books on the list are available through www.amazon.com. 

Other Distorted Views of Positive Thinkers

The faith teachers have misread the plain meaning of the words of the Bible in their context.  Gloria Copeland, Kenneth's wife, is a good example of how the faith teachers not only misinterpret but occasionally deliberately delete the words of Scripture that deny their view.  For example, Gloria Copeland quotes Daniel 3:17, 18, which is the story of Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednigo where they told the king that they would not serve their gods.  These men tell us they believe it could be God's will not to save them, but they will still trust and serve Him just like Job . . . .  But this goes against the theology of the Copelands and other faith teachers who say Christians should overcome in every circumstance.  Since the words of Daniel 3:18 didn't fit her view, Gloria deleted them.  She leaves out the words "but even if He does not".  She actually cites a Scripture in her defense that were it quoted in full would disprove the point she is making.

Consider the following areas that the faith teaching has distorted.

God

Faith teaching has distorted both the sovereignty of God and the will of God.  God is no longer sovereign if He can be forced to act on the basis of what men do.  Thus, in some cases, His will can be replaced with man's will.  In essence, what God's sovereignty lacks, human sovereignty supplies.  Not even God will interfere with the believers "divine rights."

Jesus and the Atonement

Faith teachers have redefined the mission of Jesus Christ to incorporate their beliefs.  For example, J. Osteen teaches, "did Jesus die for your prosperity?  Yes."  Robert Tilton teaches, "Jesus came to deliver man from failure, and to cause him to be once again a success . . . Christians who do not believe in divine healing, who do not believe in prosperity -- they do not believe in what was atoned for  at Calvary."  Charles Capps teaches that Jesus came and died for us to get Adam's power back to rule and dominate the earth.  Gloria Copeland states, "You have a titled deed to prosperity.  Jesus bought and paid for your prosperity just like He bought and paid for your healing and your salvation . . . .  This prosperity already belongs to you."  Here you can see these four faith teachers are saying that because of Jesus' death on the cross, He bought and paid for your healing or success now.  Their conclusion is that (even if it takes time to manifest) you can claim success or immediate healing by faith.

This is wrong.  Why?  First, because it is another misinterpretation of Scripture; namely, Isaiah 53:4, 5 and Matthew 8:17.  

Secondly, it is wrong because the Bible plainly teaches that the average Christian, the Apostles, and Jesus Himself did not teach or hold this view.  Physical healing is not the instantaneous gift assumed by the faith teachers.  The Apostle Paul himself had a physical infirmity or bodily illness he simply had to live with.  Paul told Timothy to take a little wine "for the sake of your stomach [problems] and your frequent ailments."  Paul said, "Trophimus I left sick at Miletus."  Paul never once told Timothy or anyone else to "claim your healing."  He clearly did not believe the death of Christ healed believers' illnesses.  Otherwise, how did such great men of faith as Paul and Timothy fail to know and teach that Christ died for our illnesses?  Nor was Christ's death a guarantee of success in this life.  To the contrary, by worldly standards, Paul, the apostles, and the early church were highly unsuccessful.  These godly men accepted the fact of their sickness and tribulations.  Even Jesus also accepted and expected sickness and hardship among believers.  In fact, Jesus Himself taught that sickness could be to the glory of God.  Jesus said of Lazarus, "this sickness is not unto death, but for the glory of God, that the Son of God may be glorified by it "(John 11:4).

Faith

In prosperity thinking, faith is similar to the power of magic.  J. Osteen states, ". . . faith reaches out into the invisible area.  It creates the physical realm out of invisible truths."  Here the faith teachers ascribe faith as a force to be exerted upon God forcing Him to act in our behalf.  But this is wrong.  The Bible nowhere states that God relinquished His will to each one of our wills.  He knows that would be chaos.

Man

In Positive Confession,  man is considered "a god" or a godlike being.  In some ways man is the ruler of God, who is his servant.  Like the genie in the bottle, man decides what he wants and then commands or demands God to do his bidding.  In some teachings, man comes close to deification.  

As Charles Capps states, "natural men can become supernatural" . . . and are no longer totally subject to their natural ability."  For example, the miracles done in the book of Acts were not done solely and directly by God but by believers exercising their supernatural powers and influence on others.  In Acts 14:8-10 when Paul told the cripple "stand up," the result is that "spirit words received into his spirit released spiritual power in his physical body.  This creative ability of spirit words formed in his spirit and produced physical results."

Nevertheless, the idea that men are gods is denied in the Bible.  Even Paul, a man of great faith, never considered himself a god.  

Angels

The prosperity movement is overly obsessed with the demonic and has distorted biblical teaching on the angels.  Many teach that physical illness results from demons.  They do this even though Scripture clearly distinguishes physical illness and demon possession (Luke 8:2).  Frances Hunter, for example, teaches "a demon takes a look at a woman and says, 'Wow, I think I will lay a little cancer on her. . . ' so he jumps into her body . . . and before long, the woman discovers she has cancer of the breast . . . . "  Not only does such teaching produce fear of demons in people, it offers a cruel and false hope of a "quick fix" by "exorcism" to those with serious illness.  The logical conclusion of reading some of the faith teachers' instruction has been to lead many people into fear and bondage to demons.  An example of how far this can be taken is seen by Don Basham's teaching that post-nasal drip, fingernail biting, and arthritis of the knees, among many other normal ailments, can be caused by demons. 

Conclusion

Many people have been influenced by false teaching in the church.  Some of them have been hurt because these teachings have not worked.  For example, the "faith assembly" of Hobart Freeman has resulted in the deaths of almost 100 people because his people were told that seeking medical help was supposedly "a sin" and "denial of faith."  Instead they were to claim their healing.  But sadly in claiming their healing the sick all died one by one.  This is just one of the terrible consequences of false teaching.  Not surprisingly, many of the other people felt betrayed and felt like giving up on Christianity.

Jesus stated that false teachings will lead to harmful consequences (Matthew 7:17; 24:11, 12: Acts 20:30), but He said there is a way out.  Those who truly live by His Word , the Bible, can stand the pressures of life because their lives are built on His Word, the solid rock (Matthew 7:24-27).  He promises those who know and obey His Word, that they will be set free (John 8:31, 32).  Have you neglected to learn and obey His Word, relying instead on spiritual experiences and unbiblical faith?

If you are hurt, feel betrayed, and feel like giving up on Christianity, what can you do?  First, you should not continue to fellowship where false teachings are taught (Romans 16:17).  Diligently search until you find a church where the Word of God is honoured and taught accurately, where the pastor has spent years of study in an evangelical seminary.  

Second, you must learn the Word of God yourself.  Take the time and effort to learn the basic doctrines of the Bible so that you will know when it is being "wrongly divided" (misinterpreted).

You should visit a Christian bookstore and purchase some good commentaries.

Try and help those still caught in false teachings.  The Bible encourages us to reprove those following false teachings "severely that they may be sound in the faith" (Titus 1:13).

Finally, we ask some of you to consider whether you have substituted a technique of salvation for salvation itself.  Is what you consider "faith" in God really nothing more than a mechanical technique to manipulate God for your own ends?  In John 6:26, 27 Jesus said that many people followed Him only to satisfy their own hunger.  He said instead of following Him for "food that perishes" they should rather seek the "food that endures to eternal life."  Jesus went on to explain that His food that endures to eternal life was not anything material that we can possess; rather it is true knowledge of God Himself (John 6:33-35).

Augustine spoke of this true knowledge in his commentary on Psalm 73.  There he said that God Himself should be our only treasure and reward.  To seek anything but God alone is not to seek for God.  Does this depict you?  Do you love God for Himself alone or for what you can get out of Him?

-  John Ankerberg & John Weldon

For more information on Victory Churches and the Faith Movement, go to the Reference Library.  Click on any book title to get a brief overview of the book.  All books on the list are available through www.amazon.com. 

Does the Atonement of Christ Allow Us to Claim Physical Healing?

Almost all the "faith" teachers and "faith" healers claim the Scriptures prove that the atonement of Christ guarantees our physical healing.  They teach that all we need to do is "claim" our healing by "faith."  But we disagree.  The Bible does not teach that Jesus died so that all may "claim" divine healing now.

Let us examine the Scriptures to see if they are properly applied by the faith teachers.  In Isaiah 53:4, 5 it states, "Surely our griefs [the Hebrew word implies both physical sickness and the emotional and physical consequence of sinful behaviour; Ecclesiastes 6:2] He Himself bore, and our sorrows [or pains] He carried . . . .  He was pierced through for our transgressions, He was crushed for our iniquities [sins] . . . .  By his scourging we are healed."  In response to this verse, we may state the following:

In English or Hebrew the word "heal" may refer to either physical or spiritual healing.  The context must determine if one or both meanings are meant.  For example, in 1 Peter 2:24, Peter refers to spiritual healing, and in Matthew 8:17, Matthew refers to physical healing.

Peter says of our spiritual healing, "He himself bore our sins in His body on the cross, that we might die to sin and live to righteousness, for by His wounds you were healed" (1 Peter 2:24).  Peter stresses the spiritual aspect of the atonement of Christ.  Nothing is said here about a believer's physical healing.  On the other hand, Matthew does refer to physical healing.  He says that Jesus physically healed those who were brought to Him "In order that what was spoken of through Isaiah the prophet might be fulfilled, saying, 'He himself took our infirmities, and carried away our diseases'" (Matthew 8:17).

The question is, Do these verses teach that perfect physical healing is available to every believer if, by faith, he simply "claims" it?  Since it is beyond doubt that Peter stresses the spiritual healing of the atonement, we only need concern ourselves with Isaiah and Matthew.  We accept that Matthew applied Isaiah 53 to Christ's earthly ministry of healing.  But we cannot accept that this example of Christ's ministry gives anyone permission to teach that all Christians should therefore claim their healing immediately.  Why?  Because in our Scriptural accounts Jesus and the apostles did not teach this (Matthew 25:37-40; 1 Timothy 5:23; 2 Timothy 4:20).  We do not believe that the apostle Matthew contradicted Jesus or the other apostles in this matter of the application of Jesus' healing ministry.

Also, Matthew is only pointing out that when Jesus was healing this was another sign of fulfilled Messianic prophesy.  In healing many people physically, Matthew realized Jesus fulfilled Isaiah's prophecy, thereby proving His rightful claim to be the Jewish Messiah (see Luke 7:19-23).

It's possible that Matthew's words could lead one to speculate that Jesus now provided healing for everyone, but such speculation can be seen to be false because Matthew himself specifically quotes Jesus against such a view.

In Matthew 25:37-40 Jesus Himself states He personally "expected" sickness and difficulty among believers ("[those] brothers of Mine" v. 40).  Also the writings of the apostle Paul reject such speculation as can be seen in 1 Timothy 5:23 and 2 Timothy 4:20.  For those who are following faith teachers and still not convinced, we submit the following evidence from Scripture proving this view is wrong.  Many biblical persons who had great faith were sick and in spite of their great faith not healed, such as Elisha, Daniel, Lazarus, Dorcas, Paul, Timothy, Epaphroditus and Trophimus (2 Kings 13:14; Daniel 8:27; John 11:2; Acts 9:36,37; Galatians 4:13-15; Philippians 2:25-30; 1 Timothy 5:23; 2 Timothy 4:20).

When we read the scriptural letters of the apostle Paul, we find that physical pain and sickness were indications of God's gracious work in his life (2 Corinthians 12:7-10).  Paul also boasted in his physical weakness not in his power (2 Corinthians 11:24-30).

Our Lord Jesus Himself said that even physical blindness and death could be to God's glory (John 9:1-3; 11:4).

Job said, "Shall we indeed accept good from God and not accept adversity?"  (Job 2:10).  These verses and many others indicate that God does not expect  every Christian to be healed simply because they "claim" it.

Faith teachers are wrong on another point.  They emphasize healing results are based on the amount of faith a person possesses.  They claim everyone who exercises enough faith will be healed.  They teach doubt always blocks God's divine power from healing.  But Mark 9:24 proves their teaching is wrong.  We know that Jesus mercifully healed even the son of a man who admitted to unbelief.  In addition, the faith teachers claim that even negative thinking will block God's power but this is also wrong since the Bible tells us David prayed in a state of acute depression, and yet his prayer was answered (2 Samuel 15:30-32; 17:1-23).

There is another reason why the "faith" teachers are wrong about a Christian "claiming" his healing.  There is not one Scripture verse that teaches us to "claim our healing."  No Scripture anywhere tells us that Christ's death provides physical healing now merely on the basis of our claiming it.

For example, concerning salvation, the Bible repeatedly promises "whosoever will may come."  But concerning claiming one's healing, there is not a single "whosoever will claim" promise in all of Scripture.

If we listen closely to the apostle James, we find he stresses the calling of elders and their "prayer of faith" for healing.  He does not mention an individual "claiming" his healing (James 5:1-5).

Those who say we must "claim our healing" should also examine the biblical use of the word "claim."  In the New International Version, there are about 45 uses of the word "claim" again, not one of them refers to healing.  But many times the word is used in a negative sense where men claim things that are false, things that they have no right to claim.  (1 John 1:8; 1 John 1:6; Titus 1:16; Revelation 2:2; Job 41:11).

Contrary to the teaching of the faith healers, the Bible states:

1.  If a person is sick, he can call for the elders of the church to come and pray for his recovery (James 5:14, 15).
James says two things.  First, you should call the church elders for your sickness.  Second, you do not claim healing by yourself.

2.  According to James, if a sick person is not healed, it would seem to be due to the lack of faith on the part of those who prayed for him, not the lack of faith of the sick person.

3.  There can be no doubt that God asks his people to individually bring their needs and requests to Him (Philippians 4:6).

4.  Even though we are encouraged to make our requests to God, He does not guarantee to fulfill our requests; He may still decline them.  In such cases God says that His grace is sufficient and that even in our weakness God's power can be made manifest.  Paul states:  "three times I pleaded with the Lord to take it [a thorn in his flesh] away from me.  But He said to me, 'My grace is sufficient for you, for My power is made perfect in weakness.'  Therefore I will boast all the more gladly about my weaknesses so that Christ's power may rest on me.  That is why for Christ's sake, I delight in weaknesses, in insults, in hardships, in persecutions, in difficulties.  For when I am weak, then I am strong" (2 Corinthians 12:8-10).

Peter said "let those who suffer according to the will of God entrust their souls to a faithful Creator in doing what is right" (1 Peter 4:19).  Christ's death will one day perfectly heal every believer, both spiritually and physically (Romans 8:30).  Until that day, we must accept that each of us will, in some way, suffer from the natural consequences of living in a fallen and imperfect, sin-cursed world.

However, this does not imply passivity or resignation.  David prayed fervently for God to spare his son for he said, "Who knows, the Lord may be gracious to me, that the child may live" (2 Samuel 12:22).

All of these verses should be included in our thinking concerning healing.

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The Bible Shows Faith Teachers' Errors

Positive confession is not a biblical teaching and the scores of Scriptures used to support it are typically misinterpreted or misapplied.  For example, in reference to Matthew 6:20 ("lay up for yourselves treasures in heaven") we are told by Kenneth Copeland, "Jesus is not referring to when we get to heaven.  He was teaching about God providing for us now."  Anyone who wishes to prove to himself how extensively such verses are taken out of context need only examine Positive Confession literature and then consult standard commentaries to prove their errors.

For example, 3 John 2 (that you may "prosper and be in good health") is a personal wish for Gaius, not a divine promise of money and health to every Christian.  It was a standard greeting in antiquity and had nothing to do with money.  How many of us would really end up "spiritually prospering" if we were rich?  Likewise, Mark 10:29, 30 ("the hundredfold return") is not literal but figurative since believers do not literally receive one hundred mothers and sisters and brothers as well.  So why is it used literally only in reference to money?  Also, Jesus says this is true only of those who have nothing now because they have left everything behind to follow Him, which is not true of most Christians.  It is especially not true of the prosperity teachers who are generally very wealthy.

Instead of having the poor people send them money, if the hundredfold return is really true, why don't the prosperity teachers (such as Kenneth Hagan, Kenneth Copeland, Jerry Savelle, Charles Capps, etc.) send $100 to every person on their mailing list in order to get billions of dollars in return?  But it doesn't seem to work that way.

The Bible, far from stressing the spiritual  benefits of wealth, encourages us to be content with what we have.  We are told, "keep your lives free from the love of money and be content with what you have .  .  . " (Hebrews 13:5).  In fact, it often warns about the perils of money.  Jesus said, "You cannot serve both God and Money" (Matthew 6:24, James 5:1-5).  The Apostle Paul "suffered the loss of all things" (Philippians 3:7,8).  He was content to live in poverty, hunger, and to suffer need (Philippians 4:12).  He also noted that most Christians were  "poor" and "had nothing" (2 Corinthians 6:10).  Paul said not wealth but "the sufferings of Christ are ours in abundance" (2 Corinthians 1:5).  If these "prosperity" teachings really came from the Lord, why did the Lord Himself and His disciples end up poor and martyred?

Paul also said that greed was the same as idolatry (Colossians 3:5).  The Bible teaches we are to place God's will first in our lives -- not self-will.  We cannot "write our own ticket with God."  "And this is the confidence which we have before Him, that, if we ask anything according to His will, He hears us" (1 John 5:14).  Even Jesus Himself, when He prayed for deliverance before the cross did not demand of God but said, "if you are willing . . . " (Luke 22:42).  James taught that it was "arrogant" and "evil" to presume of the Lord.  He said, "instead you ought to say, 'if the Lord wills, we shall live and also do this or that.' but as it is, you boast in your arrogance; all such boasting is evil" (James 4:15-16).  Paul himself said "if the Lord wills . . . " (1 Corinthians 4:19).  He referred to those who supposed that godliness (religion) was a means of financial gain and he said, "for we have brought nothing into the world, so we cannot take anything out of it either.  And if we have food and covering with these we shall be content.  But those who want to get rich fall into temptation and a snare and many foolish and harmful desires which plunge men into ruin and destruction.  For the love of money is a root of all sorts of evil, and some by longing for it have wandered away from the faith, and pierced themselves with many a pang" (1 Timothy 6:7-10).

Errors of Positive Confession and Consequences

Consider the following illustrations of Positive Confession Belief and ask yourself the following questions.

1. Would God reveal such teachings to His people for their welfare?
2. Are these formulas or words found in the Bible?
3. Are they based on trusting God or upon a presumption?
4. Are they reflecting the life and teachings of Jesus?
5. Do they make sense, or are they irrational?
6. Are they wise or foolish -- or could they be dangerous?

E. W. Kenyon

". . . When God imparts to us His nature, there comes with it all the attributes of God Himself.  They are undeveloped but they are there lying latent in our human spirits."

Kenneth Hagin 

"Give what you can't afford."
"God wants His children to . . . wear the best clothing.  He wants them to drive the best cars, and He wants them to have the best of everything . . . just claim what you need."
"Too few people today know that they can write their own ticket with God."

Kenneth Copeland

"As a born again believer, you have the same spiritual capacity Jesus has."
"Believers are not to be led by logic.  We are not even to be led by good sense . . . .  The ministry of Jesus was never governed by logic or reason."

Charles Capps

"He [God] said, [to Capps] . . . I am not the one causing your problems.  You are under an attack of the evil one and I can't do anything about it.  You have bound me by the negative words of your mouth."
"We have said, 'Oh, it looks like the wicked prosper.'  Well, we said they were, that is one reason they are prospering."
"In fact, I am convinced the only thing you can't have here on earth is the glorified body.  You can have the kingdom [of heaven] and the benefits of it right here on earth."

Robert Tilton

"[re: John 15:7] Jesus didn't put any limits on this . . . .  You are wall-to-wall Jesus . . . the miraculous should be commonplace in every church . . . He [Jesus] was talking about demanding your rights and having restored back to you what the devil stole from man in the fall!"

Paul Yonggi Cho

Dr. Cho is one of the less extreme Positive Confession teachers.  He claims God spoke to him and revealed His teachings about the "law" of faith involving "incubating our subconscious through visions, visualization (mental imaging directed toward a specific goal), and dreams. . . .  Physical reality may be altered in accordance with the visualized desires.  By picturing what we desire inwardly in our subconscious mind, we somehow enter an/or manipulate "the fourth dimension" in order to actually permit God to produce miracles for us in the physical realm. . . .  Your word actually goes out and creates [reality].  Cho believes that genuine pagan miracles are part of the potential of the human spirit . . . .  Visualization is held to be the secret of victorious praying.  It is our mental power to alter the fourth dimension which produces effective ministry here on the earth.

But did God ever teach these things in the Bible?  Does God require of us a certain state of consciousness -- or simple trust in Him?  Do we have power over creation or does God?  Is visualization really the "deeper language" of the Holy Spirit?

Cho has recently and correctly rebuked the American Faith teachers for excesses and imbalance.  But in his book Salvation, Health and Prosperity he teaches that apart from knowing the truths of the threefold blessings of salvation, of health, and of prosperity, we cannot properly understand the Bible . . . .  He also teaches, "if Jesus is with us now, the same things which He did 2000 years ago should appear daily in our lives.  By this we can judge whether Jesus' sayings are true or not:  if these things are not happening among us, the promises of Jesus have become empty words to us."

Logical Consequences May Follow this Belief System

Without the slightest hesitation we may say the health and wealth gospel of Positive Confession is a blight upon the church.  It is a perverted gospel of cheap grace which reverses biblical values, produces fear and spiritual bondage or intimidation, holds out false promises, leads to false guilt and despair,  in some people, produces apostasy and in others results in personal tragedy.

For example, like Christian Scientists and Jehovah Witnesses, some Christian parents accepting the faith teachings have let their own children die by withholding from them life-saving medication.  They have done this under the mistaken assumption that, in spite of evidence to the contrary, their child was divinely healed.  Thus, to continue to give them medication would supposedly be a "lack of faith" in their divine healing.  Does anyone need to be told that teachings that cause the deaths of others are not godly, no matter how godly they sound?

The problems and destruction already wrought by these teachings is considerable, yet thousands of churches and millions of Christians continue to support these "ministries," while godly ministries suffer for lack of support.  Why would some Christians continue to supply the very funds without which these ministries could not exist?  Put simply, because they are promised what they want to believe.  "For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but wanting to have their ears tickled, they will accumulate for themselves teachers in accordance to their own desires; and will turn away their ears from the truth, and will turn aside to myths" (2 Timothy 4:3,4).

Are You Attending "The Church of the Itching Ear"?

If you attend "The Church of the Itching Ear", with all of its false teachings, are you going to heaven?

"Health and Wealth" Teachers Claim Direct Counsel from God

Many of the leaders in this movement claim that God, Jesus, or angels appeared to them and taught them these ideas.  But we must ask, "Are these revelations biblical if they condone actions that are unbiblical or foolhardy?"  In fact, the supposedly divine visions, revelations, prophesies, and interpretations are often so false or unbiblical that one wonders if these visions are from their own mind or worse, from the devil.  Time and again in almost all of the writings of the faith teachers we find superficial or false interpretations of the Bible, misapplication, or serious errors of logic.  This means that the "health and wealth" or "faith" teachers are in serious trouble.  To start with, the Bible says that God is not the author of confusion or error (1 Corinthians 14:33; John 3:33; 17:17).

For example, "Jesus" told Charles Kapps, "I have told my people they can have what they say and they are saying what they have."  Does that make sense?  Does it even sound like Jesus?  Kapps also states, "The Spirit of God spoke to me concerning confessing the Word of God aloud: where you can hear yourself saying it.  He said 'It is a scientific application of the wisdom of God to the psychological make-up of man.'"  Again, does this sound like something the Spirit of God would say?

Another example is Kenneth Copeland's "Jesus," who supposedly told him one must "believe that your words have power, and the things you say will come to pass.  The result is that you can have whatever you say when you believe."  Does any Christian really believe Jesus said that in light of the Bible?  

Still another example of one of these faith teachers claiming God spoke directly to him is Robert Tilton.  He states, "The Spirit of the Lord has given me this prosperity message to share with you."  

Or Kenneth Hagin, who said, "the Lord spoke to me and said, 'don't pray for money anymore.  You have authority through my name to claim prosperity.'"  Kenneth Hagin promotes E.W. Kenyon's unbiblical and sometimes illogical text, The Wonderful Name of Jesus, by saying, "it is revelation knowledge.  It is the Word of God."

In Jerry Savelle's prosperity series we are told, "The revelation knowledge in this set was given to Brother Savelle supernaturally by God."    Savelle himself tells us "I was just sitting there, minding my own business . . . when suddenly the Lord appeared unto me.  When He appeared, He said these words to me: 'Son, my people are in financial famine in America and I am giving you the assignment to tell them how to get out.'  Then He began to reveal to me the keys to deliverance."

In summary you can see all these men claim direct counsel from God.  But is this really true?  The appearances of Jesus and angels, the words they spoke to these men -- these do not sound like the biblical Jesus or the angels that speak for God and the Bible.  God or Jesus would never encourage teachings that are unbiblical, unbalance or illogical, or which could bring spiritual confusion or ruin into the lives of those who live by them.

If these visions and appearances are real and not inflated self-delusions, then they can only result from Satan appearing as an "angel of light" (2 Corinthians 11:14).  It is the devil (and certainly not the above teachers) who desires to distort the Word, encourages spiritual excesses and illogical thinking, and brings difficulties or spiritual destruction into the lives of Christian people.


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What is the "Health & Wealth" Gospel?

The "health and wealth" gospel teaches that the human mind and tongue contain a "power."  When a person speaks expressing his faith in supposedly divine laws, his positive thoughts and his positive verbal expression (such as, "I am healed of my heart attack") are supposed to produce "divine force" that will health, produce wealth, and influence the environment.  According to the "health and wealth" teachers, God automatically responds and accomplishes what we command when we positively confess our needs and desires.  The non-biblical part of this teaching is that God is obligated to do what we decide.  We are in charge, not God.  Charles Capps and other "faith" teacher clearly state "Words are the most powerful things in the universe."

The teachings and emphases in this movement vary but in general there are at least five major tenets of the "health and wealth" or "faith" gospel.

1.  Perfect divine healing was made available to all believers through the death of Christ.  A person's healing is limited only because of his insufficient faith to receive it.

2.  It is God's desire that all believers prosper -- financially, physically, and spiritually.

3.  A person must "claim" his health and wealth.  He can do this immediately by believing he already has it and by positively confessing these conditions, even though all outward appearances seem to be different.  When sense perceptions do seem to contradict health and wealth beliefs (such as when a person is not healed of his heart attack), our senses must be rejected and a person must live by "faith."  The reason given is as follows:  The mind is so powerful that "negative confession" is just as potent a force as positive confession and therefore can become a destructive force.

4. "Health and wealth" teachers often insist one must experience the "baptism in the Holy Spirit" which is usually evidenced by speaking in tongues.

5.  Many "health and wealth" teachers rely on "angelic" contact.  They receive guidance and in turn, command angels to do their will!  "Angels" appear to be responsible for directing the ministries of several of the leading "health and wealth" teachers.

"Health and wealth" or "faith" teachers often claim divine visions, divine inspiration, or divine interpretations of Scripture passages which give their teachings absolute authority.  This is an especially serious claim and Christians need to examine it carefully.

Is the "Seed-Faith" Principle Biblical?

To answer this we must first explain the "seed-faith" principle.  It is a combination of elements of Positive Thinking psychology, "positive confession" based on divine "laws," and a "gospel" stressing "prosperity" or health and wealth.  Oral Roberts believes that his "seed-faith" principle is something that Jesus Himself revealed to him.  Roberts calls it a "blessing-pact covenant."  He claims this is "God's way of doing things through His Son Jesus Christ. . . and then through His followers, for the meeting of all our needs. . ."

 Roberts teaches that the first principle of  "seed-faith" is that God is our Source of total supply.  His second principle is giving money.  Giving money is "the seed of faith itself" and this "seed" can then be directed by the giver to perform miracles.  His third principle is to expect a miracle.  Why?  Roberts says it is because this is "God's way of doing things . . . [and it is] based on eternal laws . . . laws so exact and perfect they always work for you."

Here is one of Roberts' illustrations of how giving money is the seed that produces miracles.  In January of 1985 Oral Roberts sent out a letter informing his supporters that they could send for his "33 Predictions for You in 1985."  These predictions were allegedly based on Roberts' exercising his "gift of prophesy" for them.  The many recipients of this letter were instructed to expect "creative miracles" and money.  The reader was urged to send a "seed-faith gift" which would help him get a "hundredfold return" but there was a catch.  Roberts said, "If you neglect to pay attention to what He [God] is especially saying to you, then Satan will take advantage and hit you with bad things and you will wish that 1985 had never come."  What could you have concluded from these statements if you didn't want to send any seed-faith money?

Even Roberts' former daughter-in-law, Patti Roberts, now questions her involvement in Roberts' ministry.  Besides guilt over the excessive wealth the Roberts enjoyed, she noted "the seed-faith" theology that Roberts had developed "bothered me a great deal because I saw that, when taken to extremes, it reduced God to a sugardaddy.  If you wanted His blessings and His love, you paid Him off.  Over and over again we heard Oral say, 'Give out of your need.'  I began to question the motivation that kind of giving implied.  Were we giving to God out of our love and gratitude to Him or were we bartering with Him? . . . I believed we were appealing to their sense of greed or desperation. . . . I had a very difficult time distinguishing between the [Roman Catholic] selling of indulgences and the concept of seed-faith. . . . "  Patti Roberts felt Oral Roberts was a manipulative fund-raiser and she also had a problem with his priorities -- the principles of seed-faith were given on every T.V. show, yet the gospel itself was rarely given.

Our problems with Roberts' seed-faith principles are:  First, the conversations Roberts had with Jesus are suspect.  If Jesus actually intended these principles for all believers, then why didn't He put them in the Bible instead of waiting until Oral Roberts arrived on the scene in the 20th century?  Has the Christian church from the time of Christ and the apostles to the present been left without these divine principles?  If so, how did the church manage?

Remember, Jesus supposedly told Roberts the following four things.  First, "I have come to remind men of this eternal law of sowing and reaping, or of giving and receiving?"  Second, Roberts claimed "Jesus" told him that his principle of seed-faith was the deeper meaning of Matthew 17:20 ("If you have faith as a mustard seed. . .").  Third, Jesus included Galatians 6:7 ("Whatever a man sows, this he will also reap") as part of these principles.  Fourth, he explained that "St. Paul stated the New Testament or New Covenant is based on seed-faith."

But lets stop for a moment.  Could Jesus have said these things?  Is this what Paul meant?  Paul did not even mention seed-faith, let alone say the New Testament is based on it.  And according to the writer of Hebrews, the New Covenant is based on the Person and Work of Christ (Hebrews 9:15), not the principles of seed-faith giving, which will produce miracles for any giver.

Also, the Jesus that spoke to Roberts was mistaken about his "deeper meanings" in Scripture.  This is serious, because often known cultists use "deeper meanings" to prove their unbiblical teachings or heresy in the same way.  The meaning of New Testament words can always be determined by checking a dictionary and by reading them in context.  Before one applies Scripture, one must first determine its true meaning.  And the one true meaning of Matthew 17:20 and Galatians 6:7 is not Oral Robert's "seed-faith" interpretation, as any good commentary will show.  The same can be said of the false interpretation of Galatians 6:9 stated by Roberts' "Jesus" ("let us not become weary in doing good" NIV).  This is simply not a reference to seed-faith.

If we accept Roberts' claim of Jesus' additions or corrections to Scripture here, where do we draw the line?  One may accept this teaching as a teaching of Oral Roberts.  However, if one accepts the Bible as an authority, one cannot accept Roberts' statements as the teachings of Jesus Christ.  Who, then, is really speaking to Oral Roberts?  It is such a crucial question to determine who is speaking to Roberts that we present another illustration.

Jesus supposedly told Roberts that when the Bible records His statement, "It is more blessed to give than to receive," (found in Acts 20:35), that His actual words do not convey His true meaning.  Jesus revealed to Roberts that, "I meant it is more productive to give than to receive."  Here we must ask, would the Jesus Christ of the Scriptures who is the same yesterday, today and forever and who "never changes" (Hebrews 1:12;13:8; Malachi 3:6), be someone who would shift the meaning away from what Scripture actually records?  Would the Jesus Christ of Scripture change His mind?  If so, how many other verses require Jesus to give new interpretations to make them accurate?  What does this do to the verbal inspiration of the Bible?  The fact is that the Greek word for "blessed" (makarion) means "blessed," "fortunate," or "happy" -- it does not mean "productive."  Does Roberts expect us to believe that Jesus Himself has completely changed the emphasis of His original meaning from the joy of giving to the utility of giving?  The biblical Jesus said, "Freely you received, freely give" (Matthew 10:8).  To lead men to expect an automatic financial return of a hundredfold simply because they gave their money is to corrupt the very purpose and nature of giving.  To our way of thinking, this leads to old-fashioned selfishness; moreover, one wonders how many people have "given to get" and ended up in financial difficulty or ruin.  If God does not work this way, and these seed-faith principles are really not biblical, then those who trust in them will find constant disappointment and question God's truth and loyalty.


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Why Are Christian Positive Thinkers Wrong?

What Is Possibility Thinking?

Possibility thinking is Robert Schuller's Christian form of Positive Thinking.  He says, "I call it possibility thinking. Others call it faith."  In essence, he stresses never verbalizing negative emotions.  He also stresses conditioning the subconscious mind by programming positive thoughts into the conscious mind.  To Schuller, faith in oneself and self-esteem is vital to success.  He believes that in each one of us there resides an inner reservoir of divinely implanted creative potential which we can draw upon.  "Fill your life with the God Spirit and all kinds of power will break forth."

Schuller encourages Christians to use deep relaxation and meditation to enter the "alpha state."  He is wrong in teaching that Transcendental Meditation, for example, is not religious or anti-Christian.  It is both.  He is also wrong in teaching that the mantras with the "M" sound will help clear your mind from the distractions in the world.  Maharishi Yogi himself has said TM mantras are spiritual vehicles involving or invoking Hindu spirits or deities, which the Bible would identify as evil spirits or "demons."  Robert Schuller is also wrong in stating "it is important to remember that meditation in any form is the harnessing, by human beings, of God's divine laws."  They are clearly eastern or occultic.  They are used for occultic purposes, such a developing psychic powers or helping one realize one is God.  Schuller's form of meditation should be rejected by the church -- not accepted by it or practiced as a means of spiritual growth.

Robert Schuller's Religious Views

He believes what is needed is a "reformation of theology" along psychological lines.  He states that (1) "Christian theology has failed to accommodate" modern psychology; and (2) that Christian theology has failed to "apply the proven insights" of psychology to human behaviour.

Sin is Redefined

Schuller teaches "sin is any act or thought that robs myself or another human being of his or her self-esteem."  Thus, "the core of sin is a lack of self-esteem."  The Bible teaches something altogether different.  Sin is transgression against God and His law, not against oneself. (I John 3:4).  David said, "Against Thee, Thee only, I have sinned" (Psalm 51:4).  Robert Schuller teaches:  "Do not fear pride.  The easiest job God has is to humble us.  God's almost impossible task is to keep us believing every hour of every day how great we are as His sons and daughters. . . "  The Bible teaches "God opposes the proud but gives grace to the humble" and "pride goes before destruction" (James 4:6, Proverbs 16:18).

Salvation is Redefined

Schuller teaches "to be born again means that we must be changed from a negative to a positive self-image. . . "  He teaches "pursuing possibility thinking is the way of the cross. . . the cross sanctifies the ego trip."  He means that the hardships we experience will keep our self-esteem in check just like the cross Jesus died upon was God's method to keep Jesus' self-esteem in check.  Does Schuller mean to say that Jesus didn't have a perfect humanity and required the humility of the cross to keep His self-esteem in check?  The proper answer to that question is no.  Jesus was in all points tempted as we are, yet without sin.

The Bible teaches that salvation is repentance from sin (and self) and faith in Christ for forgiveness of sins (Acts 26:18).  As a result of being "born again," a true Christian will surrender his life to God and deny his own way.  Thus, the Bible teaches that the way of the cross is self-denial, not Possibility Thinking (Matthew 16:24, 25).

Unbelief is Redefined

Schuller teaches unbelief  "is really a profoundly deep sense of unworthiness."  Unbelief in the Bible is mainly referring to man's rejection of God's gift of salvation, that is, belief in His Son Jesus Christ (John 3:36).  This is what Schuller does not mention.  In fact, where in the Bible does God ever mention that unbelief is man not thinking he has value?  Where does the Bible say unbelief is a profoundly deep sense of unworthiness?

Hell is Redefined

Schuller teaches, "and what is 'hell'?  It is the loss of pride that naturally follows separation from God. . . the person is in hell when he has lost his self-esteem."  The Bible, however, teaches that hell is a real place of eternal torment, black darkness, and weeping and gnashing of teeth, not a state of mind. (Matthew 25:46; Revelation 20:10-15; Matthew 13:42).

Evangelism is Redefined

Schuller teaches, "I do not think anything has been done in the name of Christ and under the banner of Christianity that has proven more destructive to human personality, and hence counter productive to the evangelism enterprise than the often crude, uncouth and un-Christian strategy of attempting to make people aware of their lost and sinful condition."  He also teaches "for the church to address the unchurched with a theocentric [God centered] attitude is to invite failure in mission."  The Bible, however, teaches that unless people are aware of their "lost and sinful condition" before a Holy God (a "theocentric attitude"), they will never be saved (Romans 10:13-15).  Schuller is wrong.  Jesus said, "and repentance and forgiveness of sins will be preached in His name to all nations" (Luke 24:47).

Sanctification is Redefined

Schuller states, "God's ultimate objective is to turn you and me into self-confident persons."  The Bible teaches God's ultimate purpose is to conform us to the image of Christ (Romans 8:29).  In conclusion, the above views of Robert Schuller are not biblical and should not be accepted by the Christian church.



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The Multiplication of Error

Since the early 1970s, the same people who today espouse the "little gods" teaching have forged a virtually unbroken chain of serious doctrinal deviation.  We were first told that the church had forgotten the "proper" concept of authority, so it was necessary for us all to have "shepherds" to disciple us.  Thus, the "shepherding movement" spread and divided many churches across North America.  When this failed, the so-called "faith teaching" or "positive confession" was resurrected from the writings of Kenyon.  The Christian church was then informed (and still is) that God can be "commanded" to respond to our prayers of faith and that we can create with our tongue both good and evil, prosperity or poverty, health or sickness.  Such a position presupposed, in effect, that our faith (not God's sovereignty) was seated on the throne of heaven.

With great speed, these teachings expanded to the dictum that Christians are "little gods."  As the faith movement is embraced by leaders within the Christian Reconstruction movement, the "little gods" are given a "dominion theology."  One key reconstructionist leader, Gary North, boasts, "It has already begun:  bringing together the post millennial Christian reconstructionists and the 'positive confession' charismatics. . . . A new fundamentalism is appearing."  Dominion theology, as it is called, states that until we do indeed subdue the creation, the return of the Lord Himself will be delayed.

The multiplication of erroneous doctrine is now complete.  Unlimited faith, unlimited health, unlimited wealth, unlimited power, unlimited divinity, and now unlimited dominion.

The study of the kingdom of the cults has taught me many profitable lessons, and this is one of them -- error begets error; heresy begets heresy and always in the name of truth, always in the name of the gospel.  Those who propagate these erroneous views (the "little gods," the "born again Jesus," and so on) have sadly crossed over into the kingdom of the cults and stand in need of genuine repentance, lest they come under the inevitability of divine judgment. [The unrepentant will be going to hell.]

It is dangerous, in the presence of God, to affirm oneself as a deity -- even with a small "g."  It is blasphemous to speak in the name of God and utter false prophesies.  It is the height of theological folly to reduce God the Son, second Person of the holy Trinity, to a lost sinner with the nature of Satan and then send Him to hell with the requirement of regeneration before He can complete the work of redemption.

The words of the apostle ring true, "From such turn away" (2 Timothy 3:5, KJV).  "Keep away from them.  For such people are not serving our Lord Christ, but their own appetites.  By smooth talk and flattery [what could be more flattering than being told you are a god?] they deceive the minds of naive people" (Romans 16:17-18).

Don't Take the Bait!

One of the great paradoxes of Holy Scripture is Satan's desire to be "like the Most High" (Isaiah 14:14).  He was hurled from the pinnacle of glory to eternal judgment as a result.  When God created man in His own image, jealous Lucifer tempted Adam and Eve with the luscious bait, "You shall be as gods."  Even after they had fallen, humanity was promised a Redeemer.  Through faith in Him, believers could have the relationship with God that Lucifer so desperately craved.  It is no wonder Satan hates the church, the bride of Christ, the building of God, because within it God has been pleased to dwell (I Corinthians 3:16).  Remarkably, He has described that relationship as "the body of Christ" built upon an unshakable, enduring foundation (Ephesians 2:20).

We are then, as believers, in a union of fellowship with the Trinity.  We are joint-heirs with Christ (John 17:11-26; Romans 8:17), eternally subject as He is Himself to the Father of spirits (I Corinthians 15:28) in love and by choice.  The church is not her own; she has been purchased by the sacrifice of Calvary. [not by Paul Mcullough]  Our identity is greater than any human concept of "godhood."  We are the heirs of eternity, recipients of an indescribable gift.

Let us not cheapen that inheritance or dilute it with perverted theology.  The cost is far too great.

-- by Walter Martin

Ezekiel 28:2 -- In the pride of your heart you say "I am a god; I sit on the 

throne of a god in the heart of the seas."  But you are man and not a god,

 though you think you are as wise as a god.

Also see Genesis 3:4-5 and Isaiah 2:6, 11